小酶 发表于 2011-7-19 12:17:56

请教会phonics的爸妈们

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问题1:请问同学们我看过leap frog里说 silent e make the letter say it's letter sound,那不就是e在结尾不发音,u就应该发字母音吗?为什么有时候发字母音,有时候发u:的音啊?我搞不懂了。
问题2:ou 这个字母组合有四种发音,high 5的大表上都标明了,但是什么时候发什么音有什么规律吗?给我一个单词,我还是不知道到底发u:,u,au,a 的音啊?
请教明白的父母指教下我,phonics我研究的不透啊


小酶 发表于 2011-7-19 12:21:34

第一次发图片不知道怎么搞,就是这本书上的u-e发音,Luke这个词,我就读,ju:的音,可是一查才知道读u,到底怎么辨别呢?

天才二宝妈 发表于 2011-7-19 12:27:07

美女开始研究Phonics啦?
我还没开始呢{:soso_e106:}
我也一头雾水,跟着HIGH5准备开始学习呢。
等高手解答。

love一诺 发表于 2011-7-19 12:41:59

跟着学习中。。。。

小酶 发表于 2011-7-19 17:31:37

哪位指导我一下呢

淡茶 发表于 2011-7-19 20:48:04

我也打算过阵子开始phonics,现在还在整理资料,有点一头雾水的感觉。。

xmy 发表于 2011-7-19 22:48:44

我也要知道!谢谢

富娃 发表于 2011-7-19 22:55:27

同问,我也稀里糊涂的,谢谢。

wherezhang 发表于 2011-7-20 01:17:25

这是个例外吧。
因为语言这个东西不是全能用规则套的,好象Phonics可以套中70%的单词,但仍有30%的单词是不规则的。
这些例外,只能背下来。

high5 发表于 2011-7-20 01:30:08

英语不像其他拼音文字语言, 比如, 德语, 西班牙语, 发音和拼写一一对应。 英语因为在它的发展过程中, 吸收了大量的外来语。 它的发音和拼写规律没有那么的强。 而phonics 的一些拼读规则, 也是在研究这种语言的基础上, 找出来的, 大多数符合的规则。 我最近看到的数据说, 英语中大概有80% 的单词, 符合拼读规则。 当然, 拼读规则可以定的非常多, 非常细, 而一般的教科书仅仅涉及到一些基本的规则。

比如, 你提出来的,silent E 的规则, 在字母U 的发音, 这个时候, 就有两种情况了。
你提出来的, 同一个字母组合, 有多种发音, 具体, 什么情况发什么音, 有的有规律, 比如, soft c, g 的发音。 有的就没有规律。 我记得我在那个 最近研究phonics 的一点体会 的帖子里, 放了两张表格, 表格中有大致的统计, 同样字母组合发各个不同的音的百分比是多少。
就是因为英语里面的发音规律性不是一一对应, 有不少例外, 才有sight words,等。 规律性不强怎么办, 那就需要通过多听了。

shily 发表于 2011-7-20 03:31:45

leap frog里说 silent e make the letter say it's letter sound
没错,silent e确实是让前面的元音发字母音,所以有silent e的时候 u 应该发 。
至于有些单词会发 ,那是因为这些单词属于一种叫“Yod-dropping”的例外,这种例外是指单词中的不发音。

你如果查这个Yod-dropping的规则,那又是好多条。国外的孩子学phonics,我想大多数老师是不讲这个Yod-dropping的,但是小朋友还是知道正确的读法。所以,规则都有例外,与其死记规则,不如象Hi偶说的那样,多听才是王道。

copy一段wiki上关于Yod-dropping的介绍给你参考:

Yod-dropping is the elision of the sound . The term comes from the Hebrew letter yod, which represents .

Yod-dropping before occurs in most varieties of English in the following environments:

    * After , for example chew [ˈtʃuː], juice [ˈdʒuːs], yew
    * After /ɹ/, for example rude [ɹuːd]
    * After consonant+/l/ clusters, for example blue [ˈbluː]

There are accents, for example Welsh English, in which pairs like chews/choose, yew/you, threw/through are distinct: the first member of each pair has the diphthong [ɪu] while the second member has .

Many varieties of English have extended yod dropping to the following environments, on condition that the be in the same syllable as the preceding consonant:

    * After /s/, for example suit [ˈsuːt]
    * After /l/, for example lute [ˈluːt]
    * After /z/, for example Zeus [ˈzuːs]
    * After /θ/, for example enthusiasm [ɛnˈθuːziæzəm]

Yod-dropping in the above environments was formerly considered nonstandard in England, but today it is heard even among well-educated RP speakers. In General American yod-dropping is found not only in the above environments but also:

    * After /t/, /d/ and /n/, for example tune [ˈtuːn], dew [ˈduː], new [ˈnuː]

Glide retention in these contexts has occasionally been held to be a shibboleth distinguishing Canadians from Americans. However, in a survey conducted in the Golden Horseshoe area of Southern Ontario in 1994, over 80% of respondents under the age of 40 pronounced student and news without yod.
The areas marked in pink show parts of the United States where a distinction between /ɪu/ in dew and /u/ in do is made.

General American thus undergoes yod-dropping after all alveolar consonants. Some accents of Southern American English preserve the distinction in pairs like loot/lute and do/dew by using a diphthong /ɪu/ in words where RP has /juː/, thus /, /, etc.

However, in words like annual, menu, volume, Matthew, continue, etc., where there is a syllable break before the /j/, there is no yod dropping.

Some East Anglian accents such as Norfolk dialect extend yod-dropping not only to the position after /t/, /d/ or /n/, but to the position after nonalveolar consonants as well, so that pairs like pure/poor, beauty/booty, mute/moot, cute/coot are homophonous. Watchers of UK television are likely to be familiar with Bernard Matthews's description of his turkeys in his television advertisements as bootiful for beautiful.

In yod-pronouncing dialects, the spellings eu, ew, uCV (where C is any consonant and V is any vowel), ue and ui, as in feud, few, mute, cue and suit generally indicate /juː/ or /ɪu/, while the spellings oo and ou, as in moon and soup generally indicate /uː/.

乐淘淘宝贝 发表于 2011-7-20 08:00:51

学习了,谢谢。{:soso_e163:}

轩轩妈 发表于 2011-7-20 12:59:38

晕,我还没开始研究:(
你在啥字典上看的啊?

gsh566 发表于 2011-8-14 00:19:47

所以单词还是要背的,

littlebear 发表于 2011-8-14 02:48:44

Phonics不能当作数学来学,不可能那么一对一的。关键是小朋友事先要有积累,英文要大致熟练,在加上Phonics,就可以开始念书了。其实,我个人意见,Phonics是针对英文是母语的小朋友设计的,对于中国的小朋友,它的作用有限。

小酶 发表于 2011-8-14 08:06:35

littlebear 发表于 2011-8-14 02:48 static/image/common/back.gif
Phonics不能当作数学来学,不可能那么一对一的。关键是小朋友事先要有积累,英文要大致熟练,在加上Phonics ...

恩,有道理

jim 发表于 2011-8-19 11:34:52

RE: 请教会phonics的爸妈们

我们也刚刚学习PHONICS,还有好多问题搞不明白,请教各位,如何控制进度?

100501奕奕妈 发表于 2011-8-19 11:47:06

看来我也要找时间学学了,做好教宝宝的准备,现在很多单词自己读读都没有信心,怕误导了孩子

鸿宇妈 发表于 2011-9-9 19:32:38

我也想先学自然拼读,然后教宝宝,请问你是怎么进行的呀

小酶 发表于 2011-9-9 20:25:29

鸿宇妈 发表于 2011-9-9 19:32 static/image/common/back.gif
我也想先学自然拼读,然后教宝宝,请问你是怎么进行的呀

我瞎学的,没步骤

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