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本帖最后由 laphaer 于 2012-4-14 18:22 编辑

因为龙利鱼没有刺,所以,我家给宝宝包饺子主要用它,想来吃了一阵子了,可是,最近,总是说污染什么的,我就想查查这种鱼是深海还是什么的,一查不要紧,吓了一跳,我看到了这个
Don’t Eat this fish: Pangas (Pangasius, Vietnamese River Cobbler, White Catfish, Gray Sole)
别吃这种鱼!



Cheap cheap fish! The above is an ad (from one of the large supermarket chains in France) for the fish known as Pangas (also called, Pangasius, Vietnamese River Cobbler, Basa Fish and White Catfish, Tra, Gray Sole). It was a reminder to tell you about the dangers of this strange but increasingly popular fish. I learned about them and how they’re raised a while ago on an informative documentary online here: Documentary about Pangas. (which is in French. If you don’t speak French, read below.)

便宜的鱼啊!上面的是个有名的法国超市的广告,大家把这种鱼叫做龙利鱼。要提醒一下大家,吃这种奇怪却日益流行的鱼是很危险的!我在一个网站上发现了它们的养殖环境。

Would the French call it Poisson ou poison?

Industrially farmed in Vietnam along the Mekong River, Pangas or whatever they’re calling it, has only been recently introduced to the French market. However, in a very short amount of time, it has grown in popularity in France. The French are slurping up Pangas like it’s their last meal of soup noodles. They are very, very affordable (cheap), are sold in filets with no bones and they have a neutral (bland) flavor and texture; many would compare it to cod and sole, only much cheaper. But as tasty as some people may find it, there’s, in fact, something hugely unsavory about it. I hope the information provided here will serve as very important information for you and your future choices. Here’s why I think it is better left in the shops (and not on your dinner plates):
龙利鱼是在越南的湄公河里养殖的。最近才引进入法国,却一下子变得很受欢迎。法国人疯了一样的抢购它。这种鱼很便宜,而且鱼排没有骨头,味道也很可以接受。很多人觉得它吃起来像鳕鱼或比目鱼,价格却便宜一大截。下面的信息很重要,希望能影响到你和你未来的选择,最好让这些鱼就留在商店里,而不是你的餐桌上

1. Pangas are teeming with high levels of poisons and bacteria. (industrial effluents, arsenic, and toxic and hazardous by-products of the growing industrial sector, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), DDT and its metabolites (DDTs), metal contaminants, chlordane-related compounds (CHLs), hexachlorocyclohexane isomers (HCHs), and hexachlorobenzene (HCB)). The reasons are that the Mekong River is one of the most polluted rivers on the planet and this is where pangas are farmed and industries along the river dump chemicals and industrial waste directly into it. To Note: a friend lab tests these fish and tells us to avoid eating them due to high amounts of contamination. Regardless of the reports and recommendations against selling them, the supermarkets still sell them to the general public knowing they are contaminated.
龙利鱼包含高浓度的毒素和细菌(工业污染,生长在越南工业区,各种化学药品和金属都在那条河里)。越南的湄公河是地球上污染最严重的地方,而龙利鱼就长在这里。河岸边的工厂直接往河里倾倒各种化学和工业废料。注意:一个朋友的实验室做过龙利鱼的实验,发现里面高污染。问题是,虽然大众都知道这鱼是被污染的,而超市仍然在卖。
2. They freeze Pangas in contaminated river water. Ew.用来冷冻龙利鱼的水也是受了污染的河水。
3. Pangas are not environmentally sustainable, a most unsustainable food you could possibly eat – “Buy local” means creating the least amount of environmental harm as possible. This is the very opposite end of the spectrum of sustainable consumerism. Pangas are raised in Vietnam. Pangas are fed food that comes from Peru (more on that below), their hormones (which are injected into the female Pangas) come from China. (More about that below) and finally, they are transported from Vietnam to France. That’s not just a giant carbon foot print, that’s a carbon continent of a foot print.
龙利鱼不环保。估计能是最不环保的东西了。--大家要多吃当地食物。龙利鱼长在越南,而吃的东西却来自秘鲁,激素来自帝国。然后再运输到法国。这得排放多少的碳啊。
4. There’s nothing natural about Pangas – They’re fed dead fish remnants and bones, dried and ground into a flour, from South America, manioc (cassava) and residue from soy and grains. This kind of nourishment doesn’t even remotely resemble what they eat in nature. But what it does resemble is the method of feeding mad cows (cows were fed cows, remember?) What they feed pangas is completely unregulated so there are most likely other dangerous substances and hormones thrown into the mix. The pangas grow at a speed light (practically!): 4 times faster than in nature…so it makes you wonder what exactly is in their food? Your guess is as good as mine.
龙利鱼的生长是反自然的。他们用死鱼来喂龙利鱼。(疯牛病不就是用牛肉喂牛而产生的么。)
5. Pangas are Injected with Hormones Derived from Urine – I don’t know how someone came up with this one out but they’ve discovered that if they inject female Pangas with hormones made from the dehydrated urine of pregnant women, the female Pangas grow much quicker and produce eggs faster (one Panga can lay approximately 500,000 eggs at one time). Essentially, they’re injecting fish with hormones (they come all of the way from a pharmaceutical company in China) to speed up the process of growth and reproduction. That isn’t good. Some of you might not mind eating fish injected with dehydrated pee so if you don’t good for you, but just consider the rest of the reasons to NOT eat it.
龙利鱼的激素来自尿。不知人们怎么有的这个注意,但是他们发现如果往母的龙利鱼身体里注射怀孕女人的尿提取出的激素的话,母鱼能长得更快,繁殖更快。一只龙利鱼每次能有五十万个卵。
6. You get what you pay for – and then some. Don’t be lured in by insanely cheap price of Pangas. Is it worth risking your health and the health of your family?
一分钱一分货。
7. Buying Pangas supports unscrupulous, greedy evil corporations and food conglomerates that don’t care about the health and well-being of human beings. They only are concerned about selling as many pangas as possible to unsuspecting consumers. These corporations only care about selling and making more money at whatever cost to the public.8. Pangas will make you sick – If (for reasons in #1 above) you don’t get immediately ill with vomiting, diarrhea and effects from severe food poisoning, congratulations, you have an iron stomach! But you’re still ingesting POISON not poisson.Final important note: Because of the prodigious amount of availability of Pangas, be warned that they will certainly find their way into other foods: surimi (those pressed fish things, imitation crab sticks), fish sticks, fish terrines, and probably in some pet foods. (Warn your dogs and cats and hamsters and gerbils and even your pet fish!)
购买龙利鱼就鼓励了奸商。
Watch this Report on Pangas (in French) (Video excerpt from Capitale on M6, which aired about 3 months ago)


希望不用翻墙的爸妈们也来说说哈!

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  • xlluux

    2016-3-16 14:41:00 使用道具

    我们家宝宝很喜欢吃这鱼,鳕鱼的喜欢程度还不如这个
  • coolman66

    2016-3-9 20:10:36 使用道具

    不喜欢吃~~
  • aihulu

    2016-2-12 18:45:38 使用道具

    没吃过呢,感觉五谷杂粮挺好的
  • cindy_elaine

    2015-4-9 11:28:20 使用道具

    正在要给孩子多吃些鱼呢,不知道吃什么好,结果看到这个。更茫然了,大家有没有什么好的推荐?
  • 妈妈碧青

    2015-4-7 08:58:08 使用道具

    没有刺很鲜嫩,很适合小孩吃呀,没少吃
  • gegedidi

    2014-9-24 11:14:31 使用道具

    我家老大小的时候吃了很多,后来看了有关信息就再也不买了,每次看见还挺怀念的呢,鱼肉嫩好做没刺,真的是优点多多啊,如果不是生存环境问题该多好啊.
  • 健康最重要2011

    2014-9-22 09:40:05 使用道具

    从来不吃的飘过
  • aihulu

    2014-8-18 08:19:18 使用道具

    不怎么吃,还好
  • zrena

    2014-8-14 15:52:44 使用道具

    经常吃这种鱼
  • yiyi092

    2014-8-14 11:50:47 使用道具

    我因为孩子一吃鱼就好犯湿疹,几乎是没怎么给她吃过鱼肉的,一般吃也只吃新鲜的,之前一直考虑给孩子也吃点这种挺流行的鱼,幸好不会做也太懒惰,刚才搜了这种鱼,样子好丑啊,看着就不想吃,难怪要切片冰冻着卖了
  • dl0153

    2014-8-14 11:32:11 使用道具

    国产的应该关系不大,进口的确实有问题。可着便宜的买吧,那些是国产的。
  • liqiuying68

    2014-8-14 09:40:23 使用道具

    我家吃过,在超市买很便宜,我还有过疑问,怎么这么便宜呢?
  • hyq_5188

    2014-8-14 09:32:23 使用道具

    在超市的冰柜里有卖
  • jiankan

    2014-8-14 09:28:47 使用道具

    把这个帖子顶上去,我给孩子吃了好几个月的所谓龙利鱼了。龙利鱼是海鱼,而超市卖的根本不是龙利鱼,是巴沙鱼,冒充龙利鱼。当初查了N多龙利鱼的资料,都是说怎么怎么好,还觉得捡到宝了!这种明目张胆售假的行为却没有一个部门来管,可悲的中国!!
  • andy芝欧

    2013-11-7 10:12:47 使用道具

    的确是这样,美国的超市里还有龙利鱼卖。
  • QQ_643B8F

    2013-11-3 21:57:53 使用道具

    真是急死人啦,我家孩子就爱吃这种鱼。
  • feiwenyi

    2012-5-10 18:32:00 使用道具

    扁扁的那个我们这里叫舌鳎鱼,看了半天还是不知道尤利鱼是什么东西,
  • heidigao

    2012-5-7 14:43:42 使用道具

    看了图片,又百度了一下。应该是我们这里叫“舌头鱼”的一种扁扁的鱼,我经常买来煎着吃呢。
    不过我们这里的一般个头不大,肉挺薄的,比较适合煎着吃。
    这个报道太可怕了,我得问问我们这儿的来源。我们都买新鲜的,所以一直以为是当地渔船出海捞的。
  • laphaer

    楼主 2012-5-4 21:51:13 使用道具

    flora602 发表于 2012-4-19 21:11
    看到超市有卖的。。。有些饭店也会做成菜出售的

    所以说尽量少去饭店吃饭为好
  • 天使爱微笑

    2012-4-21 17:12:38 使用道具

    今天去超市也看到有卖的
  • samanthaxiao

    2012-4-20 10:06:39 使用道具

    我也没听说过。
  • flora602

    2012-4-19 21:11:10 使用道具

    看到超市有卖的。。。有些饭店也会做成菜出售的
  • laphaer

    楼主 2012-4-16 12:09:20 使用道具

    willowbb 发表于 2012-4-16 09:10
    吃过,不过不多,但愿不是越南的

    保佑不是越南的,阿门
  • shanljs

    2012-4-16 11:41:05 使用道具

    经常吃,不敢买了
  • willowbb

    2012-4-16 09:10:51 使用道具

    吃过,不过不多,但愿不是越南的
  • laphaer

    楼主 2012-4-15 21:48:26 使用道具

    现在正在找鱼吃,吃什么好呢?
  • laphaer

    楼主 2012-4-15 14:43:44 使用道具

    xiaobao99 发表于 2012-4-15 10:40
    家里就有好多哦。不过食品进口应该把关很严的呀。

    法国不也一样严,还不是进去了

  • xiaobao99

    2012-4-15 10:40:07 使用道具

    家里就有好多哦。不过食品进口应该把关很严的呀。
  • 默然

    2012-4-15 09:49:39 使用道具

    laphaer 发表于 2012-4-14 18:15
    吃很多东东都要小心,我们活得真累呀

    是啊,很怀念小时候啊
  • now

    2012-4-14 22:01:15 使用道具

    不记得吃过这种鱼,貌似也没见过啊!